Legislature(1993 - 1994)

04/28/1993 02:30 PM Senate JUD

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 SENATOR TAYLOR brought  CSHB 167(FIN)  (AIR QUALITY CONTROL                   
 PROGRAM) before the committee as the first order of business.                 
                                                                               
 Number 020                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE MARK HANLEY, prime sponsor of HB 167, explained                
 that the Federal Clean Air Act requires that either the State                 
 of Alaska have a federally approved air quality program in                    
 place by November 15, 1993, or the federal government will                    
 step in and run the program for the state, as well as deduct                  
 a substantial amount of federal highway funds if the state                    
 doesn't take it over.  He believes it is better for the                       
 Alaska's industry and its people to have the state run the                    
 program.                                                                      
                                                                               
 Representative Hanley pointed out that the fiscal notes                       
 submitted by the Department of Environmental Conservation are                 
 substantially less than what the Environmental Protection                     
 Agency suggested it would cost to run the program.  He added                  
 that the federal government requires industry that is                         
 regulated by the program to pay the entire cost of the                        
 program.                                                                      
                                                                               
 Representative Hanley said the legislation has had extensive                  
 work in the House and he believes that most of the concerns                   
 expressed in their hearings have been addressed.  EPA believes                
 that it meets the requirements that they feel have to be met                  
 to have an approvable law and the Department of Environmental                 
 Conservation is comfortable at this point with the law the way                
 it stands.                                                                    
                                                                               
 Representative Hanley noted that one section in the bill that                 
 has generated a lot of discussion provides that if the                        
 department wants to go beyond a federal standard, or, if they                 
 want to adopt a standard for which there is no federal                        
 standard, they have to go through a number of steps.                          
                                                                               
 Number 100                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR JACKO moved that SCS CSHB 167(JUD) be adopted.                        
 SENATOR LITTLE objected and asked for an explanation on the                   
 differences between the Senate version and the House version.                 
                                                                               
 SENATOR MIKE MILLER said most of the changes made in the                      
 Senate CS are technical changes and one change that he would                  
 consider a policy change.  He then outlined the following                     
 changes made to the House version of the bill:                                
                                                                               
  On page 18, beginning on line 21, the section relates to                     
 penalty and interest for nonpayment.  In the House version it                 
 was set at 5 percent per month for a maximum of 25 percent.                   
 The Senate version changes that to prime rate plus 2 percent.                 
                                                                               
  On page 3, line 2, it requires the department to use the                     
 .010 and .015 process in order to adopt emission limitations                  
 for federally exempt sources, new sources, or new facilities.                 
 In the House version .010 allowed the department to establish                 
 such emissions without using the .010 and .015 process.                       
                                                                               
  On page 6, lines 30 & 31 and page 7, line 6, statute                         
 references were added as technical amendments.                                
                                                                               
  On page 14, beginning on line 19, subsection (c) was                         
 deleted.                                                                      
                                                                               
  On page 21, line 22, "amendment and modification" was                        
 deleted and replaced with "expedited authorization" to provide                
 internal consistency in the language.                                         
                                                                               
  On page 26, line 10, the word "warrant" was deleted and                      
 the phrase "provide a reasonable basis to regulate the source"                
 was inserted as a technical amendment to clarify the intent                   
 of the word "warrant" and to create consistency within the                    
 bill.                                                                         
                                                                               
  On page 25, line 31, a new paragraph (b) was added to                        
 provide clarification regarding a local program use of .010                   
 and .015 procedures.                                                          
                                                                               
  On page 26, line 11, the words "excluding watercraft" was                    
 added to clarify that the term "mobile source" does not                       
 include watercraft.                                                           
                                                                               
  On page 31, line 26, the word "on-site" was deleted                          
 because the term is unnecessarily restrictive because many                    
 emergencies have off-site causes.                                             
                                                                               
 Senator Miller noted that a further amendment relating to the                 
 definition of "facility" would also be needed.                                
 Number 240                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR asked if there were any further objections to                  
 the adoption of SCS CSHB 167(JUD).  Hearing none, he stated                   
 SCS CSHB 167(JUD) was adopted.                                                
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR then moved the following amendment to page 4,                  
 line 9:  After "(b)" delete "If requested by an owner or                      
 operator whose facility would be affected by a regulation                     
 described in AS 46.14.010(b)" and capitalize "t."                             
                                                                               
 MARY NORDALE, representing the Alaska Forest Association,                     
 stated their support for the amendment.  Without the                          
 requirement, there would be no independent peer review  on                    
 regulations proposed by the department that would impose more                 
 stringent standards or limitations, and this would have a most                
 detrimental effect on small businesses.                                       
                                                                               
 Ms. Nordale said that DEC has indicated that in the last 20                   
 years it has sought to exceed federal standards on only two                   
 occasions.  DEC has also indicated that it is unlikely that                   
 regulations imposing more stringent standards will be adopted                 
 in the near future.                                                           
                                                                               
 Number 325                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR JACKO moved the adoption of the amendment to page 4,                  
 line 9  of SCS CSHB 167(JUD).  Hearing no objection, the Chair                
 stated the amendment was adopted.                                             
                                                                               
 Number 330                                                                    
                                                                               
 ROBERT REGES, Assistant Attorney General, Department of Law,                  
 said a consortium of individuals had worked for several days                  
 to try to clarify the definition of "facility" and they were                  
 proposing the following amendment:                                            
                                                                               
 Page 33, line 4:  After the word "unloading" delete the words                 
 "that is required to be regulated under" and insert the words                 
 ", consistent with."                                                          
                                                                               
 Page 33, line 6:  after the words "those sections;" delete "a                 
 facility regulated under this provision may be regulated by                   
 the department only to the extent required under 42 U.S.C.                    
 7401 - 767 1q (Clean Air Act);"                                               
                                                                               
 Mr. Reges said the amendment would make three things                          
 unequivocally clear:                                                          
                                                                               
  (1) When and if DEC goes to regulate emissions from                          
 vessels, it will do so consistent with the law and                            
 interpretations of that law;                                                  
  (2)  If and when the department goes to regulate vessel                      
 emissions, it would be done by regulation and not permit; and                 
                                                                               
  (3)  It would codify that adoption would proceed through                     
 the .010 and .015 process.                                                    
                                                                               
 Number 362                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR asked if the amendment was intended to                         
 primarily impact vessels loading fuel and cargos at Valdez.                   
 ROBERT REGES answered that Valdez would be one of the                         
 facilities that would be affected.                                            
                                                                               
 Number 380                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR HALFORD moved adoption of the amendment as outlined                   
 by Mr. Reges to page 33, lines 4 & 6 to SCS CSHB 167(JUD).                    
 Hearing no objection, the Chair stated the amendment was                      
 adopted.                                                                      
                                                                               
 SENATOR HALFORD moved that SCS CSHB 167(JUD), as amended, be                  
 passed out of committee with individual recommendations.                      
 SENATOR LITTLE objected.                                                      
                                                                               
 SENATOR LITTLE then moved the following amendment to page 13,                 
 lines 10 & 11:  delete "private, substantive."  There was                     
 objection stated to the amendment and the roll was taken with                 
 the following result:  Senator Little voted "Yea" and Senators                
 Halford, Jacko and Taylor voted "Nay."  The Chair stated the                  
 motion failed.                                                                
                                                                               
 SENATOR HALFORD renewed his motion to move SCS CSHB 167(JUD)                  
 out of committee with individual recommendations.  Hearing no                 
 further objection, the motion carried.                                        

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